How to Hurt Yourself on Twitter

It all started with a really irritatingly heartwarming episode of Due South.

We also had some discussion of whether the comic books fall under the definition of literature.

…but quickly returned to the cockles.

Jen joined the discussion with her wrong opinion and things may have gotten a bit silly.

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I did my best to keep the discussion serious, to no avail.

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https://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/369676460350394368
https://twitter.com/josswhedon/status/369489878238507008
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Then this happened:
Me: *laughing* Sorry, I have something in my throat.
Jen: What, laughter at my expense?
Me: No, a cockle.
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ETA (twitter demanded this addition):

Various Updates

I’ll be leaving town for several weeks, starting a week from Monday.  I’ll try to update this as I can.

Still no word on when Hawk is scheduled. I’m hoping for an editing session on it while I’m out of town, and I might learn more then.

Still excited (probably too excited) about the release of The Incrementalists (36 days!).

Meanwhile, I’m still working on the sequel to The Incrementalists, and another project that I don’t want to talk about yet.  A short story I was working on hit a brick wall, but I still like the idea, so I’m going to see if I can take another pass at it.

I hope to see some of you at Worldcon, Fencon, or one of the signings.

 

 

One Incident, Several Questions

He was physically restraining her, trying to force her into an apartment building.  911 was called.  He was pushing her into the exterior wall of the apartment building when the police arrived.  She was unable to escape unless she, or someone, used physical force, which she was unwilling to do.  When the police arrived, she was only partially dressed; she yelled for help.  The police approached.  He stepped in front of her, grabbed her arms, and wrapped them around his waist. His back was pushing her into the building.

The police spoke to them.  The entire time, he was between her and the police, and was holding her arms around his waist.  In appearance, she was holding him; but his hands never left her wrists, so she could not have separated herself from him without using force.

A friend said to her, “Do you want to leave him?  Do you want to come with me?”  “Yes,” she said.

After more discussion, she left with her attacker, looking cowed and afraid, and the police drove away. Her back had many scratches from the brick building she’d been pushed into.  At no time did the police separate the two to get her story outside of his earshot and physical influence.

The above incident is true, witnessed by me, today, with one minor change: “He” was a “she” and “she” was a “he.”

How much of a difference does that make?  How much should it make?   Is it an argument for “Men’s Rights,” pointing out that, in fact, women have the advantage?  Is it an argument for equality, pointing out that sexual discrimination hurts everyone? (For the record, my own answers are “a lot” “none” “no” and “yes.”)

I think, above all, it shows us that as a society we are unequipped to deal with the sort of mental illness that turns lovers into abusers.

On the Concept That “Science is Just Another Religion”

Why do people say “Science is just another religion?”  Any time you’re trying to see inside the head of someone who disagrees with you, you’re in dangerous territory.  But two weeks ago we were driving through the mountains of British Columbia, and I’m kind of missing dangerous territory, so here goes.  If this appears to be an attack on a particular individual, I apologize; sometimes the best way to address the general is through the particular.  It isn’t intended to be personal.

There is a lovely bit in Trotsky’s Their Morals And Ours: “…to the Roman pope Freemasons and Darwinists, Marxists and anarchists are twins because all of them sacrilegiously deny the immaculate conception. To Hitler, liberalism and Marxism are twins because they ignore ‘blood and honor’. To a democrat, fascism and Bolshevism are twins because they do not bow before universal suffrage. And so forth.”   When you say X and Y are the same, you are generally saying little about X and Y, and a great deal about your own method and ideology.

When someone says, “Science is just another religion,” it is worth asking, “Of exactly what does this ‘just another’ consist?”

In the previous discussion, one commenter wrote, “Science, whether it falls under a precise definition of religion, certainly has a lot of features of one – including tenets, rituals, and zealots.”  Therefore, we may conclude, the existence of tenets, rituals, and zealots is the most vital matter in analyzing the nature of beliefs.  The question of how well a belief system can be used to explain and consciously change the objective world, its willingness to change itself when contradictory evidence appears, its effort to draw the laws of motion of nature from facts rather than imposing them on facts–none of these, it seems, matter. What matters is that there are tenets, rituals, and zealots.

What does this tell us?  That, to this individual, the search for objective truth is irrelevant–very likely, it indicates a belief that there is no objective truth.  But, if there no objective truth, how do we understand the world? By practical effect.  And practical effects, to a subjectivist, are personal and individual.  This gives the person the freedom to list “bad things” science has done and “good things” religion has done, picking examples that are meaningful to this individual and that just happen to put religion on top.  (Meanwhile, these people merrily use hardware, software, and infrastructure (including electricity and the shelter that, presumably, is over their heads), all of which are the products of science, in order to go onto the internet and explain that science is just another religion.)

Tim Minchin, in “Storm” (which I linked to in my previous post) says, “Every mystery solved so far has turned out to be–not magic.”  Yeah, there are mysteries we haven’t solved yet.  There are whole fields that science is only starting to look at.  And it is quite natural that some people will look at those mysteries and fields and put God there; after all, there isn’t any room for Him in the mysteries we’ve solved.  But to take the next step and use this to dismiss science requires a determined sort of ignorance.

The object of the game, in my opinion, is the creation of a better world.  That means, for starters, one without poverty, without war, with good health care for all, with full access to culture for all, with human liberty and equality for all.  The more we understand the world (both the “natural” world and the social world–two classes of knowledge that can be separated in our minds, but not in reality), the more effectively we can work to accomplish these goals.  There is a name for the effort to understand objective truth: we call it science.  If you believe the methods of science fall short in accomplishing this goal, then it is perfectly fair to propose ways in which science itself can be improved.  This is how the scientific method itself changes and adapts.  But dismissing it by labeling it a religion–that is, a set of beliefs no more or less “valid” than any other–is to work against our ability to understand the world, and thus is, ultimately, to support reaction.

 

A Few Brief Remarks about Atheism

A Twitter conversation about atheism has now passed beyond what Twitter can handle (at 140 characters, the bar is not set high).  Let me lay it out for you.  For the record, I don’t think anything here is particularly daring or outrageous; I just wanted to state it clearly.

I do not believe in God.  I do not believe in any non-material world.  I believe that people who pull the “you can’t prove a negative” stuff have an understanding of “prove” that is narrow and not appropriate to this conversation*.  I believe in science, and that includes taking a scientific approach to the history and effects of religious beliefs.

I believe many militant atheists are unscientific in their approach to religion.  I believe many of them are using atheism as a cover to justify racism and atrocities carried out by imperialism against Arab and North African peoples in the name of big oil.  I feel that twisting a scientific principle out of shape to use it to justify terrorism, the murder of children and other civilians, torture, and attacks on democratic rights is one of the ugliest, most evil things a human being can do.

Belief in God can, should, and (I believe) ultimately will be overcome by education and by the free exchange of ideas.  When religious groups attempt to interfere with science or with the exchange of ideas, or attempt to impose their beliefs on society in general or education in particular, they can, should, and must be fought.  But ignorance masquerading as science is horrid, whether it is creationism, or anti-Muslim hysteria with a faux-scientific cover.

 

*In itself, a fascinating question that I’ll have to talk about one of these days.