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		<title>By: Mental Component</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mental Component</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LiamW</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiamW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can’t just think about it, you have to Do Something.&quot;
Ah, the struggle between idea and praxis!
Interesting that some of Marx&#039;s most reknown products, the scholars of the &quot;Frankfurt School,&quot; tended toward analysis and not action. Perhaps apocryphal, but I&#039;m reminded of the story of a student asking Adorno why he does not participate in the Paris student protests, and he replied you can&#039;t fight for something you haven&#039;t figured out yet, and I haven&#039;t figured anything out yet. 

(That being said, I LOVE Adorno, don&#039;t get me wrong.)

Anyway, it&#039;s discouraging to see how when people DO try to put change into action (e.g.: Trotsky, Che), it ends up getting co-opted and perverted by others. Today, even Fredric Jameson can only suggest &quot;action&quot; in the form of mapping the conditions to understand it better. 

Where are there any intellectuals in the Marxian tradition who can advocate real changes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can’t just think about it, you have to Do Something.&#8221;<br />
Ah, the struggle between idea and praxis!<br />
Interesting that some of Marx&#8217;s most reknown products, the scholars of the &#8220;Frankfurt School,&#8221; tended toward analysis and not action. Perhaps apocryphal, but I&#8217;m reminded of the story of a student asking Adorno why he does not participate in the Paris student protests, and he replied you can&#8217;t fight for something you haven&#8217;t figured out yet, and I haven&#8217;t figured anything out yet. </p>
<p>(That being said, I LOVE Adorno, don&#8217;t get me wrong.)</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s discouraging to see how when people DO try to put change into action (e.g.: Trotsky, Che), it ends up getting co-opted and perverted by others. Today, even Fredric Jameson can only suggest &#8220;action&#8221; in the form of mapping the conditions to understand it better. </p>
<p>Where are there any intellectuals in the Marxian tradition who can advocate real changes?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things to think about as we go through Marx:

-He&#039;s heavily influenced by Hegel &amp; Co&#039;s dialectic theory. In Hegel, history is defined by the cyclic opposition and synthesis of opposing ideas. Several of Marx&#039;s peers at the University of Berlin believed that history had effectively reached an end, and that the ideas of Reason and Freedom had won an ultimate and inevitable victory. Marx takes a different route, and says that ideas are secondary to material conditions, and that the thing to watch is the interaction between groups of people and the material conditions of their existence.

-At the time Capital was written, Adam Smith and David Ricardo were the standing economic champs. 

-Marx differs from these two in (among other things) his emphasis on intertemporal focus--he&#039;s concerned with the progress of History with a capital H. This also has implications for his de-emphasis on economic efficiency (best allocation of resources achieved through exchange--all of the pie gets eaten, pie is as large as possible) in favor of economic equity (fairest allocation of resources--who gets to eat the slices of pie, how big are these pieces, and why).

-Mercantilism, with its emphasis on high barriers to trade, is slowly giving way to free markets as the primary economic model. Technological change and scalable manufacturing techniques are laying the groundwork for the Industrial Revolution. 

-Working conditions are extremely bad by modern standards. Heavy burden of economic uncertainty is borne at the bottom of the wealth pyramid. Marx is a philosopher who believes that if you are a philosopher who finds a problem, you&#039;d darn sure better come up with a way to fix it. You can&#039;t just think  about it, you have to Do Something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things to think about as we go through Marx:</p>
<p>-He&#8217;s heavily influenced by Hegel &amp; Co&#8217;s dialectic theory. In Hegel, history is defined by the cyclic opposition and synthesis of opposing ideas. Several of Marx&#8217;s peers at the University of Berlin believed that history had effectively reached an end, and that the ideas of Reason and Freedom had won an ultimate and inevitable victory. Marx takes a different route, and says that ideas are secondary to material conditions, and that the thing to watch is the interaction between groups of people and the material conditions of their existence.</p>
<p>-At the time Capital was written, Adam Smith and David Ricardo were the standing economic champs. </p>
<p>-Marx differs from these two in (among other things) his emphasis on intertemporal focus&#8211;he&#8217;s concerned with the progress of History with a capital H. This also has implications for his de-emphasis on economic efficiency (best allocation of resources achieved through exchange&#8211;all of the pie gets eaten, pie is as large as possible) in favor of economic equity (fairest allocation of resources&#8211;who gets to eat the slices of pie, how big are these pieces, and why).</p>
<p>-Mercantilism, with its emphasis on high barriers to trade, is slowly giving way to free markets as the primary economic model. Technological change and scalable manufacturing techniques are laying the groundwork for the Industrial Revolution. </p>
<p>-Working conditions are extremely bad by modern standards. Heavy burden of economic uncertainty is borne at the bottom of the wealth pyramid. Marx is a philosopher who believes that if you are a philosopher who finds a problem, you&#8217;d darn sure better come up with a way to fix it. You can&#8217;t just think  about it, you have to Do Something.</p>
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		<title>By: Tragic Sans &#187; Brust on Capital</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tragic Sans &#187; Brust on Capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to literature and culture, guess what my favorite Trotskyist fantasy author has started doing? He’s reading and commenting on Karl Marx’s seminal work on socio-economics, Das Kapital.* (Volume 1, I believe, which is the one Marx had worked mostly on before he died, while Engels [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to literature and culture, guess what my favorite Trotskyist fantasy author has started doing? He’s reading and commenting on Karl Marx’s seminal work on socio-economics, Das Kapital.* (Volume 1, I believe, which is the one Marx had worked mostly on before he died, while Engels [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil in Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil in Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still, from time to time, cite your use of a meal in understanding/creating the setting of a story.  What&#039;s on the table; who&#039;s eating; who brought it to the table; who cooked it; who went to market for the ingredients; who sold them; who grew them; how did they get to market; etc.
I find myself gradually moving more and more categories of &quot;sf&quot; over to &quot;fantasy&quot; in my own view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still, from time to time, cite your use of a meal in understanding/creating the setting of a story.  What&#8217;s on the table; who&#8217;s eating; who brought it to the table; who cooked it; who went to market for the ingredients; who sold them; who grew them; how did they get to market; etc.<br />
I find myself gradually moving more and more categories of &#8220;sf&#8221; over to &#8220;fantasy&#8221; in my own view.</p>
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		<title>By: Reesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our bathroom reading material currently includes at the moment &lt;i&gt;The Prehistory of Sex&lt;/i&gt;, which has a neat theory in the first chapter about how our transformation from hairy four-leggers to naked two-leggers with boobs and butts was in large part driven by &lt;i&gt;social&lt;/i&gt; sexual selection, since those changes are actually disadvantages from a &lt;i&gt;biological&lt;/i&gt; evolutionary perspective.  It&#039;s interesting stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our bathroom reading material currently includes at the moment <i>The Prehistory of Sex</i>, which has a neat theory in the first chapter about how our transformation from hairy four-leggers to naked two-leggers with boobs and butts was in large part driven by <i>social</i> sexual selection, since those changes are actually disadvantages from a <i>biological</i> evolutionary perspective.  It&#8217;s interesting stuff!</p>
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