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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-12630</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saved your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saved your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Kreistor</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-12627</link>
		<dc:creator>Kreistor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the US has socialized medicine, welcome to the real world of smoking. Smoking now costs every American, smoker or not, money. It causes not just lung and a few other cancers, but it weakens arteries leading to heart attack and stroke. And a dozen other things. My aunt is living with one lung removed and the other barely hanging on, sucking down oxygen from a bottle, stuck unable to leave her house or visit her children and grandchildren --- smoked like a chimney and was a nurse, and now her lungs are unable to transmit enough oxygen into her blood to keep her more than superficially alive, something only smoking could have caused.  Someone that knew better.

All of those illnesses you will now be paying for. Actually, through your insurance, you already are.

It costs you years of life -- lost time not spent with children and grandchildren. My father smoked all his life, until his heart attack at 52 forced him to quit. (Six months in a hospital bed will help with that.) And then his (previously repaired) aneurysm in his heart blew out 14 years later, six weeks before my sister would have told him she was pregnant -- at Christmas.

My father missed all of his grandchildren. They&#039;ll never meet him, because he smoked.

Who are YOU going to never meet?

Isn&#039;t it worth learning to deal with your own anger without a crutch, so that you can meet that special small someone someday?

Smoking has cost me dearly. If you can&#039;t see what it could cost you, for an emotional crutch that you&#039;d need to give up in order to really know whether you need it or not, then you need to open your eyes and look a little harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the US has socialized medicine, welcome to the real world of smoking. Smoking now costs every American, smoker or not, money. It causes not just lung and a few other cancers, but it weakens arteries leading to heart attack and stroke. And a dozen other things. My aunt is living with one lung removed and the other barely hanging on, sucking down oxygen from a bottle, stuck unable to leave her house or visit her children and grandchildren &#8212; smoked like a chimney and was a nurse, and now her lungs are unable to transmit enough oxygen into her blood to keep her more than superficially alive, something only smoking could have caused.  Someone that knew better.</p>
<p>All of those illnesses you will now be paying for. Actually, through your insurance, you already are.</p>
<p>It costs you years of life &#8212; lost time not spent with children and grandchildren. My father smoked all his life, until his heart attack at 52 forced him to quit. (Six months in a hospital bed will help with that.) And then his (previously repaired) aneurysm in his heart blew out 14 years later, six weeks before my sister would have told him she was pregnant &#8212; at Christmas.</p>
<p>My father missed all of his grandchildren. They&#8217;ll never meet him, because he smoked.</p>
<p>Who are YOU going to never meet?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it worth learning to deal with your own anger without a crutch, so that you can meet that special small someone someday?</p>
<p>Smoking has cost me dearly. If you can&#8217;t see what it could cost you, for an emotional crutch that you&#8217;d need to give up in order to really know whether you need it or not, then you need to open your eyes and look a little harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-12611</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I agree completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I agree completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-12604</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smoking saves lives. Having a smoke reduces my stress level. Stress is caused by the minds refusal to kill some asshole who desperately deserves it. As this is occasioned daily if not hourly, smoking saves lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smoking saves lives. Having a smoke reduces my stress level. Stress is caused by the minds refusal to kill some asshole who desperately deserves it. As this is occasioned daily if not hourly, smoking saves lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Schmwarf</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-12565</link>
		<dc:creator>Schmwarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyler

What is the &quot;interesting statistic&quot;?

What is your source of stats?

What is the life expectancy of an indigenous American?

Chinese, Indians, Indonesians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis make up around 78 per cent of the Asian population and all of them have an average life expectancy far less than America. So what do you mean by &quot;maintain better health than us?&quot;

To draw conclusions on tobacco and general global health you have to normalize other comparative national factors such as: alcohol consumption, consumption of other drugs, the quality of food,  economic conditions, demographics, levels of violence, sedentary lifestyle, climate, etc.

You are saying &quot;Tobacco is obviously not that bad for us&quot;, are you saying that decades of medical research by qualified doctors, biologists and other scientists are invalid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyler</p>
<p>What is the &#8220;interesting statistic&#8221;?</p>
<p>What is your source of stats?</p>
<p>What is the life expectancy of an indigenous American?</p>
<p>Chinese, Indians, Indonesians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis make up around 78 per cent of the Asian population and all of them have an average life expectancy far less than America. So what do you mean by &#8220;maintain better health than us?&#8221;</p>
<p>To draw conclusions on tobacco and general global health you have to normalize other comparative national factors such as: alcohol consumption, consumption of other drugs, the quality of food,  economic conditions, demographics, levels of violence, sedentary lifestyle, climate, etc.</p>
<p>You are saying &#8220;Tobacco is obviously not that bad for us&#8221;, are you saying that decades of medical research by qualified doctors, biologists and other scientists are invalid?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyler</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-12564</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tobacco has been worshipped by Indigenous Americans for centuries, and we know their health is outstanding. Europeans smoke more, Asia smokes more, and basically the rest of the continent and they maintain better health than us. Tobacco is obviously not that bad for us, but it&#039;s a whole other load of problems of why we are sicker than everyone else. You could go with that interesting statistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobacco has been worshipped by Indigenous Americans for centuries, and we know their health is outstanding. Europeans smoke more, Asia smokes more, and basically the rest of the continent and they maintain better health than us. Tobacco is obviously not that bad for us, but it&#8217;s a whole other load of problems of why we are sicker than everyone else. You could go with that interesting statistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Bawrence</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-5933</link>
		<dc:creator>Bawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something like a leper colony for smokers would be win/win, according to one respondent here.  If the nicotine in cigarettes increases productivity (despite the frequent breaks) as he asserted, then concentrating all that productivity in one place should work miracles. What are you people waiting for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something like a leper colony for smokers would be win/win, according to one respondent here.  If the nicotine in cigarettes increases productivity (despite the frequent breaks) as he asserted, then concentrating all that productivity in one place should work miracles. What are you people waiting for?</p>
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		<title>By: Bawrence</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-5932</link>
		<dc:creator>Bawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have I made any mention of banning smoking areas?  Clearly one of us is fucking nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I made any mention of banning smoking areas?  Clearly one of us is fucking nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Majikjon</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2009/06/07/defending-tobacco/comment-page-3/#comment-5931</link>
		<dc:creator>Majikjon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smokers introduce this so-called &quot;hazard&quot; into &quot;the environment&quot; that is specifically designed and set aside for them and NO ONE is forcing you to go into. 

So yes, insisting that they stop smoking IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, just because you don&#039;t approve of their habit, is persecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smokers introduce this so-called &#8220;hazard&#8221; into &#8220;the environment&#8221; that is specifically designed and set aside for them and NO ONE is forcing you to go into. </p>
<p>So yes, insisting that they stop smoking IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, just because you don&#8217;t approve of their habit, is persecution.</p>
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		<title>By: Bawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smokers introduce the hazard to the environment, but they&#039;re the ones persecuted?  They may make you look cool, but you still sound like pussies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smokers introduce the hazard to the environment, but they&#8217;re the ones persecuted?  They may make you look cool, but you still sound like pussies.</p>
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