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		<title>By: Reesa</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2008/12/09/heres-a-womans-mystery-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4608</link>
		<dc:creator>Reesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goat - Definitely not!  I was asked to post it by Steve, who thought it was a funny offhand comment I made during the uncomfortable portion of my last menstrual cycle  while reminiscing about some of my experiences on the fluff end of the pagan spectrum, and was quite surprised at some of the responses. 

Multiple reesas, on the other hand, are likely to be much more terrifying to the populace.  Although it would solve some nagging problems I&#039;ve been having for years about existing in more than one place at the same time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goat &#8211; Definitely not!  I was asked to post it by Steve, who thought it was a funny offhand comment I made during the uncomfortable portion of my last menstrual cycle  while reminiscing about some of my experiences on the fluff end of the pagan spectrum, and was quite surprised at some of the responses. </p>
<p>Multiple reesas, on the other hand, are likely to be much more terrifying to the populace.  Although it would solve some nagging problems I&#8217;ve been having for years about existing in more than one place at the same time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Goat</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2008/12/09/heres-a-womans-mystery-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-4605</link>
		<dc:creator>Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reesa@... 0? - Had you any idea of the debate you&#039;d spark with this one? Because I took it as a &quot;You know what grinds my gears&quot; style of offhand comment, not to be read into too deeply.

Doctroid@6 - Saying &quot;I want to punch a woman in the mouth&quot; isn&#039;t funny? Man, it seems I am behind the times. (I&#039;m teasing guys, no need to flame me, :-p)

Lewis@14 - &quot;...misguided people who follow an outmoded belief system?&quot; Ouch man, just ouch.

jennifer@22 - LOL, fluffy bunnies, bane of reesas and legitimate pagans alike. I could write a diatribe about fluffy bunnies, but I&#039;ll resist that urge. And yes, I just pluralized reesa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reesa@&#8230; 0? &#8211; Had you any idea of the debate you&#8217;d spark with this one? Because I took it as a &#8220;You know what grinds my gears&#8221; style of offhand comment, not to be read into too deeply.</p>
<p>Doctroid@6 &#8211; Saying &#8220;I want to punch a woman in the mouth&#8221; isn&#8217;t funny? Man, it seems I am behind the times. (I&#8217;m teasing guys, no need to flame me, :-p)</p>
<p>Lewis@14 &#8211; &#8220;&#8230;misguided people who follow an outmoded belief system?&#8221; Ouch man, just ouch.</p>
<p>jennifer@22 &#8211; LOL, fluffy bunnies, bane of reesas and legitimate pagans alike. I could write a diatribe about fluffy bunnies, but I&#8217;ll resist that urge. And yes, I just pluralized reesa.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darque, there are a lot of women who try to suffer silently.  After all this is a regular occurence and complaining never gets you much sympathy. As for your observation, even if your premise is correct, it is just as likely that only women who don&#039;t have miserable periods are attracted to Paganism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darque, there are a lot of women who try to suffer silently.  After all this is a regular occurence and complaining never gets you much sympathy. As for your observation, even if your premise is correct, it is just as likely that only women who don&#8217;t have miserable periods are attracted to Paganism.</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Darque:  when you use your personal experience and belief system to &#039;talk down to&#039; anyone, over any topic, they will react poorly.  Claiming that paganism leads to bodily acceptance, peace, joy and longer orgasms is as silly as saying that Hinduism leads to enlightenment, pearly white teeth and happiness.

Also, and this is just a thought, before you make assumptions about Reesa&#039;s personal belief system, you might just want to, I don&#039;t know, ask her for clarification before jumping off the deep end?

The original content of the post seemed to me to be that when people use flowerly over-sentimental language to tell a person in pain to &#039;accept it as a beautiful part of life&#039;, it tends to irritate and annoy the person in pain.  Just because it is most often pagans who say such things, and therefore engender the need to punch them, does not mean that pagans are inherently wrong/bad/evil/whathaveyou.   Fluffy bunnies can sometimes be rather annoying.

Goddess knows, I&#039;ve wanted to take out my vaginal distress on a handy fluffy pagan a time or two.  Revel in this!  

Hope you are well, and that you don&#039;t take internet discussions too poorly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Darque:  when you use your personal experience and belief system to &#8216;talk down to&#8217; anyone, over any topic, they will react poorly.  Claiming that paganism leads to bodily acceptance, peace, joy and longer orgasms is as silly as saying that Hinduism leads to enlightenment, pearly white teeth and happiness.</p>
<p>Also, and this is just a thought, before you make assumptions about Reesa&#8217;s personal belief system, you might just want to, I don&#8217;t know, ask her for clarification before jumping off the deep end?</p>
<p>The original content of the post seemed to me to be that when people use flowerly over-sentimental language to tell a person in pain to &#8216;accept it as a beautiful part of life&#8217;, it tends to irritate and annoy the person in pain.  Just because it is most often pagans who say such things, and therefore engender the need to punch them, does not mean that pagans are inherently wrong/bad/evil/whathaveyou.   Fluffy bunnies can sometimes be rather annoying.</p>
<p>Goddess knows, I&#8217;ve wanted to take out my vaginal distress on a handy fluffy pagan a time or two.  Revel in this!  </p>
<p>Hope you are well, and that you don&#8217;t take internet discussions too poorly.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDarqueOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheDarqueOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am probably going to regret this post but oh well... First let me say that I am not trying to ignore or minimize what you go through every month Ressa.

Pagans understand what Science eventually figured out: Attitude and how you approach anything has a huge amount to do with how you feel about it. So call it a Curse and you suffer worse, I think that is simple enough for everyone.

And for those of you who will naturally scoff at what I have to say you might want to consider this little tidbit. I have been associated with various Pagan Communities for decades now. I have been lucky enough to know quite a few pagan women very well.

And of all the women I have known, the Pagan ones suffer the least during their periods. Fewer get cramps, fewer get bitchy and hostile, and most go through it with very little outward sign that they are anything other than normal.

Perhaps you will just say &#039;oh that is just luck of the draw&#039; but I do not think so. Basic psychology is on my side as well as experience.

So maybe... just maybe, the Pagans have the right idea, outmoded beliefs and all.



Darque
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am probably going to regret this post but oh well&#8230; First let me say that I am not trying to ignore or minimize what you go through every month Ressa.</p>
<p>Pagans understand what Science eventually figured out: Attitude and how you approach anything has a huge amount to do with how you feel about it. So call it a Curse and you suffer worse, I think that is simple enough for everyone.</p>
<p>And for those of you who will naturally scoff at what I have to say you might want to consider this little tidbit. I have been associated with various Pagan Communities for decades now. I have been lucky enough to know quite a few pagan women very well.</p>
<p>And of all the women I have known, the Pagan ones suffer the least during their periods. Fewer get cramps, fewer get bitchy and hostile, and most go through it with very little outward sign that they are anything other than normal.</p>
<p>Perhaps you will just say &#8216;oh that is just luck of the draw&#8217; but I do not think so. Basic psychology is on my side as well as experience.</p>
<p>So maybe&#8230; just maybe, the Pagans have the right idea, outmoded beliefs and all.</p>
<p>Darque<br />
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		<title>By: Budro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Budro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find as I get older that I&#039;m much less tolerant of other people&#039;s bullshit while at the same time I&#039;m much better at ignoring it.

Reesa: your original post made me think of how my wife felt when she first started breastfeeding - she wanted to punch all the liars who said what a wonderful, beautiful, emotional fulfilling, tender thing breastfeeding was, while in reality it was quite painfull.  For the entire 2 years she did it.  Letting down is not fun, and having a small toddler bite your nip is not fun either...

A little bit of realism never hurt anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find as I get older that I&#8217;m much less tolerant of other people&#8217;s bullshit while at the same time I&#8217;m much better at ignoring it.</p>
<p>Reesa: your original post made me think of how my wife felt when she first started breastfeeding &#8211; she wanted to punch all the liars who said what a wonderful, beautiful, emotional fulfilling, tender thing breastfeeding was, while in reality it was quite painfull.  For the entire 2 years she did it.  Letting down is not fun, and having a small toddler bite your nip is not fun either&#8230;</p>
<p>A little bit of realism never hurt anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily Litella had a way of cutting through the euphemisms on this subject.

Generally, pseudo mysticism is not a good approach to dealing with any life process. People who think it is would not be harmed by getting a little sense knocked into them. Or so it seems to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily Litella had a way of cutting through the euphemisms on this subject.</p>
<p>Generally, pseudo mysticism is not a good approach to dealing with any life process. People who think it is would not be harmed by getting a little sense knocked into them. Or so it seems to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Siun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewis: perhaps you might address Reesa directly rather than turning her into a third person in her own thread? 

self aware indeed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewis: perhaps you might address Reesa directly rather than turning her into a third person in her own thread? </p>
<p>self aware indeed</p>
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		<title>By: Lumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to school at a place where I actually heard one woman tell another that it was unacceptably patriarchal to spell &quot;womyn&quot; with a &quot;y&quot;, that being the male chromosome.

I still have not figured out how to pronounce &quot;womxn&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to school at a place where I actually heard one woman tell another that it was unacceptably patriarchal to spell &#8220;womyn&#8221; with a &#8220;y&#8221;, that being the male chromosome.</p>
<p>I still have not figured out how to pronounce &#8220;womxn&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: skzb</title>
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		<dc:creator>skzb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Christian.  I was at a loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Christian.  I was at a loss.</p>
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