Comments on: Slides from Icon 2008

By: bamboo rug

bamboo rug — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 09:29:58 +0000

yes, it is.

By: Gaelsha

Gaelsha — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:35:26 +0000

@Catherine: ooh, the Roman glass shards sound interesting. (Did I mention I love the “Wikipedia” you all have come up with, so much information! I wonder if we could do something like that for Mother? Have to remember to ask the modpods.) We do a lot of glasswork here and having something “different” would be intriguing.

Now all we have to figure out is how to manage shipping and how much is a reasonable barter.

Tell me what sort of beading you would like on the hair piece (glass, stone, pearl, make something up and surprise you?) and I’ll figure out how many labor hours it would “cost” me to make. Then we can translate that into how much glass that equals in a similiar number of hours for you. Or something. Hm…trading between worlds could get interesting, if only for the complexities of barter! How fun!

And while you are thinking about material (oh, and colors for the beading) you could get me some measurements that would be helpful. Let’s see, gather your hair into a single “strand” at the back, measure around the base. (Do you have access to a measuring device that will bend enough to allow you to do that?) and then twist it into a bun and measure the circumference of that as well. That will tell me how big to make the spiral for you. *smile*

I do so love a challenge….

-Gaelsha

By: Catherine

Catherine — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:14:03 +0000

@Gaelsha: The art I do is mostly digital (these pictures, for instance). I don't know exactly how I could barter them, but I guess you could have them printed up wherever you are if you're interested... I have high-res copies of the first five. Though you paying to print them up would kind of defeat the purpose. ^__^ If you like antiquities, I could get you some ancient coins (mostly the Hasmonean dynasty or Agrippa I) at a pretty good price. Roman glass shards too - lots of people here put it in jewelry because of its iridescent patina.

By: Gaelsha

Gaelsha — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:10:05 +0000

@AntonGarou I have to admit that answer raised more questions than it bedded down. But I see that Splash has started a thread on Voices to answer this, so I’ll table it on this thread for now and head over there. Thanks for your responses, even if I didn’t wholly understand that last one!

-Gaelsha

By: AntonGarou

AntonGarou — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:08:52 +0000

@Gaelsha- Yes, work credits sound a lot like money, of which “cash” is the paper/coin subcategory.Paper/coin cash is partially a historical artefact here and now: most money is wholly electronic.

Money gets transferred to paper/coin form for transactions where ‘net access is impossible or uncomfortable, also the straight use of electronic money usually costs a commission, which make the use of electronic money under a certain sum counterproductive.

Usually we carry some money on our person for such instances while most of our money is electronic, although some people, either criminal or paranoid, who’re afraid that larger organizations, like governments, are following them, restrict themselves to “cash” since it is mostly untraceable, while electronic transactions very easily are.

By: Gaelsha

Gaelsha — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:46:01 +0000

@AntonGarou Sounds a lot like work credits to me, but are you saying you don’t barter at all? Only credit?

If I can barter directly, I do. If not then I pay with labor hours. From what Splash was telling me though, Tellurians use “coin” and “paper” versions of labor hours. We don’t use those, it’s all transacted electronically. I do wonder how you keep track of it, doesn’t it become harder to travel if you have to haul whatever amount you might need along, instead of just logging into the mesh from you Emkay?

Anyway, the way it works here is if you want to sell me something at the shop, I offer credit or craft, and either barter for something I’ve made, or credit your labor hour account. If you want to buy something, either I know I can use what you can give me: your craft or your time or some information or connection you have, or I accept your credits.

I can’t speak for everyone, but I prefer barter whenever I can arrange it. It’s just more fun!

-Gaelsha

By: AntonGarou

AntonGarou — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:13:12 +0000

@Gaelsha:I don’t know what work credits are, but “cash” is a way to get around some of the problems large barter economies tend to have, to give a simplistic example:
say that I want one of your hair spirals, and I have a livex wool scarf I can exchange it for- but you don’t need it, you want an amount of raw copper instead, and the metal trader won’t accept it either- he wants some apple turnovers, to my relief the baker finally takes it as payment.This means that I need to dicker three times and make 3-4 side trips for the one hair spiral.Cash is an agreed upon, universal payment method- instead of specifying what you want for the spiral at each purchase you say “each spiral costs such-and-such in cash”, which you can spend on variety of other things later, and I can find someone who’ll give me this amount(or more) for my scarf, or maybe I have enough I got left from some transaction before.It’s got its problems, but it simplifies things.

By: Gaelsha

Gaelsha — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:46:49 +0000

@TexAnne: Sorry about that, guess I should have specified what I was replying to! They aren’t heavy, the copper tube is hollow, which cuts down on the weight (as opposed to using a copper rod).

@Catherine: I don’t see why it wouldn’t work for people with “way too much hair”. How much hair is too much hair I wonder? I could craft it for you with a larger spiral, if you are concerned about it. That should solve the issue, whether you mean hair thickness or length or both.

I still don’t understand the Tellurian exchange rate. Do you craft something we can trade? Barter I understand. I’ll check with Splash in the meantime and see if I can come to an understanding of how your trade system functions. I am guessing “cash” is your equivalant of work credits?

-Gaelsha

By: Catherine

Catherine — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:32:14 +0000

@Gaelsha: Thanks! I’m afraid I’m pretty much out of cash at the moment so I probably won”t be able to afford one any time soon… about how much would it cost? (And would it work for people with way too much hair?)

By: AntonGarou

AntonGarou — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:27:56 +0000

*waves to Boojie*Any chance of you linking to your own gallery?or is it closed to non-facebook people(I know the one Talash set up isn’t)?

Also, add my voice to the people wishing they brought cameras.For Steve’s hat if nothing else: it is seriously cool.