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		<title>By: Ice Cream Cones</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2008/08/02/the-great-ice-cream-cone-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-12962</link>
		<dc:creator>Ice Cream Cones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice idea. I am also wondering why sugar cones weren&#039;t shaped like a waffle cone. I thinks it&#039;s really nice too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice idea. I am also wondering why sugar cones weren&#8217;t shaped like a waffle cone. I thinks it&#8217;s really nice too.</p>
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		<title>By: skzb</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2008/08/02/the-great-ice-cream-cone-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>skzb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duffy @ 18: I wondered why cup cones weren&#039;t shaped like sugar cones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duffy @ 18: I wondered why cup cones weren&#8217;t shaped like sugar cones.</p>
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		<title>By: Duffy Pratt</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2008/08/02/the-great-ice-cream-cone-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>Duffy Pratt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my question:  You remember when you were a kid that there were no waffle cones.  But for as long as you can remember, you have been wondering why sugar cones weren&#039;t shaped like waffle cones.  What I wonder is how you came to wonder about this discrepancy before you ever saw a waffle cone?

One other observation:  what you call the &quot;cup cone&quot; isn&#039;t really a cone at all.  The word cone refers to the shape.  And cup cones aren&#039;t shaped like cones at all.  I defy you to get a parabola out of one.  If Kepler or Newton had grown up with cup cones, we might still know nothing about the true nature of the orbits of the planets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my question:  You remember when you were a kid that there were no waffle cones.  But for as long as you can remember, you have been wondering why sugar cones weren&#8217;t shaped like waffle cones.  What I wonder is how you came to wonder about this discrepancy before you ever saw a waffle cone?</p>
<p>One other observation:  what you call the &#8220;cup cone&#8221; isn&#8217;t really a cone at all.  The word cone refers to the shape.  And cup cones aren&#8217;t shaped like cones at all.  I defy you to get a parabola out of one.  If Kepler or Newton had grown up with cup cones, we might still know nothing about the true nature of the orbits of the planets.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Brazee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Brazee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You appeared to know the answer to your question when you disregarded waffle cones.    It&#039;s all about tradition.   If they didn&#039;t have them when you were a kid, they don&#039;t count.

Same thing happens with candy bars, which are very hard to gain significant market share.   People introduce their children to the ones they liked when they were young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You appeared to know the answer to your question when you disregarded waffle cones.    It&#8217;s all about tradition.   If they didn&#8217;t have them when you were a kid, they don&#8217;t count.</p>
<p>Same thing happens with candy bars, which are very hard to gain significant market share.   People introduce their children to the ones they liked when they were young.</p>
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		<title>By: Corrvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you can fix the stable-when-set-down problem without a huge modification. Sugar (or waffle) cones are, basically, round at the top. Take one cone and slice off about the bottom third (ideally you&#039;d do this pre-cooking). Invert it and set it down on the large round end. Take a second cone and fill it with ice cream. Stick it in the inverted cone. You now have an hourglass-shaped edible ice cream holder with the advantage that if you hold it from the covered point, it protects your hand from drips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you can fix the stable-when-set-down problem without a huge modification. Sugar (or waffle) cones are, basically, round at the top. Take one cone and slice off about the bottom third (ideally you&#8217;d do this pre-cooking). Invert it and set it down on the large round end. Take a second cone and fill it with ice cream. Stick it in the inverted cone. You now have an hourglass-shaped edible ice cream holder with the advantage that if you hold it from the covered point, it protects your hand from drips.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Himelhoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewis Himelhoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always buy a waffle cone maker and
use a round mold instead of a conic one.  Probably a  dowel would work. Then make a small round section to use as the base
and press them together. Or roll the cone leaving a hole in the bottom and attaching a flat base if you prefer the conic shape.

http://www.amazon.com/Chefs-Choice-838-Waffle-Express/dp/B00005KJX0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could always buy a waffle cone maker and<br />
use a round mold instead of a conic one.  Probably a  dowel would work. Then make a small round section to use as the base<br />
and press them together. Or roll the cone leaving a hole in the bottom and attaching a flat base if you prefer the conic shape.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Chefs-Choice-838-Waffle-Express/dp/B00005KJX0">http://www.amazon.com/Chefs-Choice-838-Waffle-Express/dp/B00005KJX0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skzb @13:
I &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; went with Dairy Queen, but I wasn&#039;t sure they were global enough to be a universal example for cone discussions. For all I know there may be entire regions of your readership who&#039;ve never set foot in a DQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skzb @13:<br />
I <i>almost</i> went with Dairy Queen, but I wasn&#8217;t sure they were global enough to be a universal example for cone discussions. For all I know there may be entire regions of your readership who&#8217;ve never set foot in a DQ.</p>
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		<title>By: skzb</title>
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		<dc:creator>skzb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris B. @ 12: Right, but I think of Dairy Queen instead of the Scottish place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris B. @ 12: Right, but I think of Dairy Queen instead of the Scottish place.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B.</title>
		<link>http://dreamcafe.com/words/2008/08/02/the-great-ice-cream-cone-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-2240</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@9/10

If I&#039;m reading it all correctly, &quot;cup cone&quot; refers to the kind of cone you&#039;d get at McDonalds, with a flat bottom and a widened top; pale and crisp, rather than dark and sturdy. Essentially a wafer cone. I hate to use the M word in a discussion of delicious things but we&#039;re in need of universal references and you can&#039;t get much more universal than that.

As it happens, if I&#039;m eating soft-serve I prefer cup cones, because as you force ice cream down to the bottom of the cone, you&#039;re left, at the end, with one bite that is the pinnacle of decadence, an almost orgasmic delight, with the ice cream forced into the braces at the cone&#039;s base. Biting it triggers an explosion of deliciousness.

For scooped ice cream, of course I would rather have a sugar cone: much sturdier, and since the cone will likely outlast the ice cream, it is important that it&#039;s tasty in its own right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9/10</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m reading it all correctly, &#8220;cup cone&#8221; refers to the kind of cone you&#8217;d get at McDonalds, with a flat bottom and a widened top; pale and crisp, rather than dark and sturdy. Essentially a wafer cone. I hate to use the M word in a discussion of delicious things but we&#8217;re in need of universal references and you can&#8217;t get much more universal than that.</p>
<p>As it happens, if I&#8217;m eating soft-serve I prefer cup cones, because as you force ice cream down to the bottom of the cone, you&#8217;re left, at the end, with one bite that is the pinnacle of decadence, an almost orgasmic delight, with the ice cream forced into the braces at the cone&#8217;s base. Biting it triggers an explosion of deliciousness.</p>
<p>For scooped ice cream, of course I would rather have a sugar cone: much sturdier, and since the cone will likely outlast the ice cream, it is important that it&#8217;s tasty in its own right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lowrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be very possible to make something like a dip mold that would bake the waffle/sugar batter into a cup cone shape...  A cold (to cause the batter to stick to the form) inner form that dipped into batter and dropped into a hot outer form that did the baking... remove the inner , invert...

However, I&#039;m fairly unsatisfied with *both* forms of cones.  The sugar/waffle cones are too fractile and crunchy.  They do not break well or chew nicely.  And of course, the cup cones don&#039;t taste good nor hold up to the liquidity of the melty ice cream.

Also, historically, the waffle cone has always been around.  I was going to spout some urban legendry, but will punt to the slightly more reliable &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_cream_cone&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be very possible to make something like a dip mold that would bake the waffle/sugar batter into a cup cone shape&#8230;  A cold (to cause the batter to stick to the form) inner form that dipped into batter and dropped into a hot outer form that did the baking&#8230; remove the inner , invert&#8230;</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m fairly unsatisfied with *both* forms of cones.  The sugar/waffle cones are too fractile and crunchy.  They do not break well or chew nicely.  And of course, the cup cones don&#8217;t taste good nor hold up to the liquidity of the melty ice cream.</p>
<p>Also, historically, the waffle cone has always been around.  I was going to spout some urban legendry, but will punt to the slightly more reliable <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_cream_cone">wikipedia</a>.</p>
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